Wednesday, March 2, 2011

UFO Magazine - UFO Magazine Blog - Gene Steinberg Shuts Down Alfred Lehmberg's�Internet!

I try hard to avoid personality ego clashes and fights but as well all know, in this field, it's impossible. The very best among the best in UFO research have found themselves at times in the thick of distasteful messes like the following: UFO Magazine - UFO Magazine Blog - Gene Steinberg Shuts Down Alfred Lehmberg's Internet!

To keep myself focused and on task I perpetually remind myself it's about my own journey and "the research." Well, part of this journey and research include many of the fellow travelers and sometimes you have to say something.

I find this whole thing from the strident deniers thoroughly disgusting. Read Jeremy Vaeni's comments at UFO Magazine because he puts it very well; really hits on the pertinent points.

Whatever one thinks about Carol Rainey's revelations about Budd Hopkin's research, or Emma Woods revelations (though I find it difficult to see how anyone can be so adamantly "against" Rainey and Woods, and so impossibly, vehemently for Jacobs) it's not about us, it's about the nature of research. Which includes the witness-researches dynamic.

Instead of self-appointed UFO Gatekeepers who think nothing of insulting others, but more importantly, think nothing of shutting down -- literally, as in the case of one host who, driven by a frothing pettiness over the reality that someone else dare disagree with his views -- Alfred Lehmberg's ISP. Wow. This furthers UFO research how?

All the time wasted shutting down, and out, those who disagree, attacking Emma Woods and Carol Rainey with misogynistic spewings, inserting oneself into the debate with rambling and paranoid accusations towards those who are on the "wrong side" --- instead of exploring the issues that have come from this, such as the witness-researcher relationship, the usefulness of hypnosis in abduction research, and so much more.

Instead, we have some very ugly people out there saying and doing ugly things, distracting just about everyone from the real stuff: witnesses, the research, the data, etc.

In some ways, this is  part of the UFO phenomena: the Trickster circus, distracting theater of the absurd. The real stuff is ignored, the petty ugly stuff takes center stage.  This is so obvious, yet ironically, the ones who are sticking up for the so-called esteemed researchers can't see that.


Gene Steinberg said...

It helps a lot if you actually knew what happened, rather than depend on Lemberg's inflammatory lies.

No, I did not shut down Alfred Lehmberg's Internet. Only his ISP and he, himself, can do that.

What I did do, in response to several pieces of hate mail from Lehmberg, was to complain to his ISP and send them copies. This is my right under the law, and what they did after that is their business.

Gene Steinberg

Alfred Lehmberg said...
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Alfred Lehmberg said...

Nonsense, Mr. Steinberg, once again you rewrite the story to suit yourself, distort the record, and facilitate _your_ grasping and self-interested agenda. Let's tell the whole story, eh? Even those bits unflattering of you...

Start at the top:

You really are a right _bastard_, you know... when you're not "the most odious, sanctimonious, preposterous, idiotic, pompous, ridiculous, hypocritical, feeble-minded drongo on the planet."

Get used to _me_, boyo.

Nancy said...

Regan, I've read your post maybe once a day for the last several days. Trying to stay focused on the work is really hard when liars overwork their bully pulpits.

One of these days, I think I'd like to start telling all the truths I know about some of the more sour personalities and then leave "the field" for greener pastures, but so far, that would be foolish. Instead, I will read your post again and try to stay focused on what's important.

Bravo to the fighters.

Regan Lee said...

Thank you Nancy!

Regan Lee said...

GS: "No, I did not shut down Alfred Lehmberg's Internet. Only his ISP and he, himself, can do that."

Oh der. "Only his ISP" such disingenuous semantics!

Alfred titled his piece: "Gene Steinberg Shuts Down Alfred Lehmberg's Internet!"

And I wrote: "think nothing of shutting down . . . Alfred Lehmberg's ISP."

You were pissed/offended at what Alfred wrote, you contacted his ISP, which caused Alfred to lose his internet connection. What part of "inflammatory lies"
is that? From Lehmberg's article:
GS: "What didn't you understand about my request that you not write me anymore?
Do I need to contact your ISP too?
Gene Steinberg "

Alfred Lehmberg said...

Love this...

"[No, I did not shut down Lehmberg's internet; now stop asking me about it or I'll shut down _your_ internet!]" -- Gene Steinberg